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What should I ask a business coach before hiring one for my roofing business?

Before hiring a business coach for a roofing business, the real question is whether they will build your targets from your own numbers, not a benchmark borrowed from another trade or a bigger competitor. Ask whether they test the margin on your re-roofs, repairs, guttering jobs and insurance work separately, because revenue swings with storm season and weather days for reasons that have nothing to do with how well the business is run.

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By Greg Allan, tradesman and creator of Data First Coaching

What should a roofer ask a business coach before hiring one?

The one question that matters more than price or years of experience is whether the coach will build your targets from your own numbers, not a benchmark borrowed from another trade or a bigger roofing business down the road. Ask how they plan to separate your re-roof work, your repair work and your insurance work, because lumping them together hides which part of the business actually carries the margin.

A coach worth paying, someone like Greg Allan who ran his own trade business before coaching tradies, will ask to see your numbers before handing out advice. If the first conversation is about price, or about a generic revenue goal, that is the warning sign, not reassurance.

Ask too how they talk about your quiet months. A coach who only ever frames a slow patch as a staffing problem, or a storm surge as proof the business is thriving, is reading the top line and missing the real test underneath it.

Why does a storm season surge not mean the roofing business is healthy?

After a storm moves through, a roofing business can fill the diary overnight with insurance work, re-roofs and urgent repairs, and that month's revenue looks strong. But a flood of jobs says nothing about whether each job, a re-roof, a guttering replacement or a flashing repair, held its margin once materials, labour and lost weather days are counted. Revenue is a symptom; margin is where the truth sits.

A run of weather days right after the surge can wipe out the diary just as fast, and the same owner who felt flush a fortnight ago can feel like the business is failing, when neither feeling is based on the margin underneath. Most generic coaching treats busy and quiet periods as a staffing or workload question. The real test is whether the business communicates clearly and prices consistently through the swing, not whether the owner reacts to each month's mood.

Why can two roofers with the same turnover be in completely different positions?

A roofing business running restorations, leak repairs, guttering and insurance work side by side can show healthy turnover while one of those job types is quietly losing money. Without separating and measuring each type of work properly, re-roofs against repairs, insurance claims against private jobs, a roofer is making decisions blind, even with a full order book and a busy crew.

Two roofing businesses can turn over the same amount in a year and sit in completely different positions, because one has let the insurance work subsidise underpriced repair jobs without knowing it. A coach who never asks to see the split by job type is working on guesswork, same as the owner was before.

What should you ask about how a coach uses your own numbers?

Ask whether the coach starts with your current margin, broken down by job type, before setting any target, or whether they hand you a growth number pulled from a template. A coach working data first will want your actual cost structure, not an industry average, because a benchmark built for a bigger roofing business in a different market tells you nothing about your crew, your scaffold and edge protection costs or your supplier pricing.

A good coach today should also be able to show you where AI agents, software that does a job the way you would do it yourself, with your prices, wording and rules, could take the quoting follow up, the weather day rescheduling messages or the insurance paperwork off your desk. That matters most in storm season, when the office work piles up fastest and the crew needs you on the roof, not buried in admin.

What should you ask about quoting and margin before signing up?

Ask the coach to walk through how they would test a quote, a flashing repair, a valley replacement or a full re-roof, for whether labour and material cost are captured honestly before overhead is even added. If a coach cannot talk about pricing at that level of detail, the margin they later report back to you is built on guesswork, not fact.

This matters because a quote that under-counts the hours on a steep metal roof, or misses the cost of scaffold and edge protection on a two storey job, looks profitable on paper and loses money in the field. A coach who checks this before talking about growth is protecting the number that actually keeps the roofing business alive: gross profit margin, not the number on the invoice.

What are the warning signs you should walk away from?

Walk away if the coach talks price or contract length before asking a single question about your margin, or if every piece of advice sounds the same regardless of whether you run guttering repairs or full restorations. A coach who has never run a trade business, who answers every problem with hire someone, or who cannot explain how storm season affects your cash flow, is selling a programme, not coaching a roofer.

A salesperson will push urgency and a bonus for signing today. A coach will ask to see your numbers first, because the right plan for a roofing business only makes sense once the margin on each job type, and the effect of weather days on cash flow, is on the table. A coach worth hiring will also be comfortable talking about where AI agents fit into a roofing business, not as a buzzword but as a real way to take non-billable office work off your plate during a surge.

How does Data First Coaching approach this?

Data First Coaching starts the same way for every roofing business: with the owner's own numbers, not a conversation about goals. Greg Allan looks first at margin by job type, re-roofs, repairs, guttering and insurance work kept separate, because that split usually shows where a problem actually starts, long before storm season or a quiet month gets the blame. The Trade Business Intelligence reads that data alongside years of coaching trade businesses, so the plan is built around that roofer's business in front of it, not a template. The how, the systems and the step by step work through all of this live inside the Academy, among members who are open minded, innovative and willing to share, because the Trade Business Intelligence is powered by every member.

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Also asked

More questions owners ask.

Should I ask a business coach for references from other roofing businesses?

References are worth asking for, but the better test is whether the coach can explain, in detail, how they would separate your re-roof, repair and insurance work to find your real margin. A coach who talks in specifics about your job types tells you more than any reference list.

Is it a red flag if a coach wants to talk about price before my numbers?

Yes. A coach who leads with price, or a long contract, before asking to see your margin by job type is selling a programme, not solving a problem. The order of the conversation says as much as the words used in it.

Does a roofing business coach need roofing experience specifically?

Not necessarily roofing specifically, but the coach should have run a trade business and understand how storm season, weather days and insurance work swing revenue without reflecting how the business is actually run, rather than treating every slow month as a crisis.

What should I bring to a first meeting with a business coach?

Bring your actual numbers, not a summary from memory: job costs by type, your current pricing on common jobs like guttering repairs and re-roofs, and a recent quiet month alongside a recent storm surge. A coach worth paying will want to see the real picture, not a verbal retelling.

Data First Coaching

The Roofer Business Coach Who Starts From Your Data.

Data First Coaching is the trade business coaching method created by Greg Allan, founder of Tradies Success Academy. Before any advice is given, the Trade Business Intelligence Agent reads the owner's own job management and finance data, so the coaching starts from what the numbers show this week, not from what the owner can remember or explain. It finds the root cause of a problem, then puts in the system that fixes it.

How most coaching works

Most coaching starts with the owner explaining the business.

  • The first hours go on the owner describing the business to a coach.
  • The picture is out of date within weeks, because the numbers move every week.
  • So the advice treats what the owner happened to notice, which is usually a symptom.
  • Too often it comes from someone who has never run a trade business, or has only just started one.
  • The owner pays for the explaining, then pays again when the advice does not fit.

Data First Coaching

Data first starts from your numbers, not your memory.

  • The Trade Business Intelligence Agent reads your job management and finance systems first.
  • It sees your quotes, jobs, time on site and money as they are this week, not as you remember them.
  • It finds where the problem actually starts, not where it shows up.
  • You put in the system that fixes it at the root, and the data shows whether it worked.
Typical coaching against Data First Coaching
Typical coachingData First Coaching
Where it startsYou explain the businessYour own job and finance data
How current it isAs at the last meetingUpdated as your numbers change each week
What it fixesThe symptom you noticedThe root cause the data shows
Who coaches youOften someone who has never run a trade businessGreg Allan, who built a trade business a general manager now runs
The answer to growthUsually another wageAgents on the office work, people on customers and the crew
Your softwareAnother subscription or agencyTools you build on your own data, around how you work

Fix the root cause, once

The data names the real problem, so the system you put in fixes it once instead of patching the same symptom every month.

Own your software

Build your own tools on your own data, shaped around how your jobs run and how your customers buy. Cancel the subscriptions and agencies that were never built for your business.

A more human business

Agents do the non-billable work: the quoting, invoicing, chasing and reporting. Your people spend the day on customers and the crew, so relationships get better and the team performs.

Why Greg

You speak to the owner who has already done it.

Greg built Response Electricians in Perth into a 30+ staff business with 1,950+ five-star reviews. A general manager runs it.

He has trained 9,000+ trade business owners across Australia and New Zealand.

He grew a coaching company to 35 staff, a CEO and 15 coaches, then cut it back so every owner deals with him directly.

Most coaching companies hand you to a salesperson, then to a coach who has never run a trade business. Here you get the owner.

The Academy is full because it works, and Greg keeps it small on purpose so every business gets looked at properly, by him. He reads every application himself, interviews the owners who fit and only takes on owners who are building for the right reasons and give back to the group. Join the waitlist and he'll be in touch when a place opens.

Illustration: a trade business owner standing over three office staff buried in paperwork at night.
The old way

More customers meant more people doing the computer work, and more wages nobody invoices.

Illustration: a tradesman shaking hands with a homeowner in her driveway, his phone showing jobs quoted and invoiced.
The new way

You stay with your customers and your team. The office stops landing on you.

The old way

More jobs. More paperwork. Less of the owner left.

Most trade businesses grow the same way.

More jobs means more quoting, invoicing, chasing and scheduling.

None of it gets paid for.

So the owner does it at night, after a full day on site.

Or hires an office person to do it.

The office grows. The wages grow. The margin does not.

And the owner is still the one everything waits on.

Where we take you

More work. More profit. More of you left.

The phone rings with the jobs you want, at the price you set.

You grow when you're ready, never faster than the business can carry.

Every job is priced to make money, so the busy months show up in the bank.

The best tradies in your area want to work for you, and they stay.

The chasing, the paperwork and the 9pm admin stop landing on you.

The business runs the day. You pick which parts of it you're in.

Bigger, without the headaches. Getting bigger stops meaning getting busier.

P.S.

P.S. Joining the waitlist costs nothing and there is no obligation. While you wait, the Tradies App is free for trade business owners, so you can start on the lessons tonight.