Articles / Painters

How do I replace two lead painters leaving at once?

When two lead painters leave a painting business at once, the real risk is not the empty roster, it is the owner falling back onto scaffold and brush, covering prep, cutting in and colour consultations personally, while quotes, paint supplier accounts and site schedules across several jobs start to slip. The business does not just lose hands, it loses the person who was meant to be running the sites.

The Academy is at full capacity. 9,000+ owners trained, 4.9 stars from 123 Google reviews.

Greg on videoBurnout in December causes a hiring spike you cannot afford

By Greg Allan, tradesman and creator of Data First Coaching

What actually happens when two lead painters walk out at once?

For a painter running repaints, new builds, strata and commercial jobs across several sites, losing two lead painters at once usually means the owner is suddenly back on the brush and scaffold, covering prep, cutting in and exterior work personally, instead of running the crews. The real cost is not the missing hands, it is the missing person who was meant to be managing the sites, the quotes and the paint supplier accounts.

Most owners notice the gap in the roster straight away. What takes longer to show up is the gap in who is actually running the business day to day. Colour consultations get pushed back. Quotes for new work sit half finished. Defects on a strata job go unchecked because nobody is walking the site to sign off on coats and finish before the next crew moves in.

Why does losing two leads pull the owner straight back onto the tools?

It happens because a smaller painting business often holds onto good lead hands for years and gets comfortable with how the roster sits. When one or two of those people leave together, there is no spare capacity built in, so the owner is the only one left who can cut in a ceiling line, manage an exterior crew through the weather, or run a colour consultation on short notice.

This is a pattern Greg sees across trades, not just painting. A business runs on exactly the number of people it needs, with no slack, so when someone walks out there is nowhere for the work to go except straight back onto the owner. The owner who was meant to be quoting commercial work and chasing paint supplier accounts ends up back on scaffold, and the business stops growing while they are there.

What should you do with the remaining crew before anything else?

Talk to the crew who are still on the tools before quietly loading extra work onto them. If the remaining painters are suddenly covering more coats, more prep and more sites with no conversation about hours or pay, resentment builds fast, and it tends to show up as sick days and falling morale rather than as a straight complaint.

An early, direct conversation about what is changing, for how long, and what it means for their hours gives the remaining crew a say in how the gap gets covered. Left unmanaged, an overloaded crew on a painting job tends to follow a familiar pattern: tired painters call in sick more often, morale drops on site, and eventually someone else decides to leave too, which only makes the original gap bigger.

Should you just hire two painters to replace the ones who left?

Replacing like for like only fills the hole that is already there, it does not give you any room to move. If you hire exactly the same headcount you had before two lead painters walked out, you are back to running the business with no spare capacity, which is the same position that left you exposed this time.

This is not about the first hire in a painting business, it is about the hire that breaks the ceiling of the owner being the only one who can run a site without standing on it themselves. It matters most for a painting business in its growth stage, once it has moved past one owner and one crew into several sites running repaints, new build work and commercial or strata jobs at the same time. Building in spare capacity above the current workload, rather than hiring back to exactly where you were, is what gives you room to quote on site, chase colour consultations and manage multiple crews instead of being stuck finishing an exterior repaint because nobody else is free.

What number actually tells you whether the business can carry that spare capacity?

The number that matters here is the gross profit margin sitting inside each job as it is quoted, not a figure pulled together once a month after the invoices are in. If that margin is checked at the moment a repaint, new build or commercial quote goes out, you know in real time whether the business can carry an extra lead painter's wage, not just whether the roster looks full.

Memory tells an owner how busy the diary looks. It does not tell them whether last month's strata job actually carried its share of the overheads, or whether the exterior jobs booked in over the next few weeks leave enough margin to support another wage on top of paint, materials and site costs. A data first view of the business, built from the owner's own jobs rather than a feeling about how things are going, shows whether hiring above the gap is something the numbers can actually support, or whether it is a guess.

What can AI agents take off your plate while you sort out the roster?

An AI agent is software that does a job the way you would do it yourself, using your own prices, your own wording and your own rules. While you are stretched covering two lead painters' worth of work, AI agents can keep quotes moving, chase paint supplier accounts and follow up colour consultations, so those jobs do not stall just because you are back on scaffold.

None of that non-billable office work needs the owner personally, it needs someone doing it the way the owner would. An agent can draft a quote for a repaint using the owner's own pricing and margin rules, chase a paint supplier account that has gone overdue, or send the follow up for a colour consultation booked before the two leads left. That frees the owner to spend time on the things an agent cannot do: walking a commercial site, checking a defect, or talking to the crew about how the extra work gets shared out fairly.

How does Data First Coaching approach this?

Data First Coaching starts from the painting business's own numbers, not from a description of what happened when the two leads walked out. The Trade Business Intelligence looks at margin by job, capacity by crew and how work was shared before the gap opened, to find whether the real problem is headcount, workload, or a conversation that never happened. Greg puts it simply: “while you have capacity in the team, you have freedom.” The how, working out what spare capacity actually looks like for this business, is worked through inside the Academy, with members, because the Trade Business Intelligence is powered by every member who is open minded, innovative and willing to share what they learn.

Looking for a business coach who starts from your numbers? Painter Business Coach or every answer for painters.

Also asked

More questions owners ask.

How many painters should I keep on hand so this doesn't happen again?

There is no fixed headcount that suits every painting business, it depends on how many sites you run and what margin each job carries. The honest answer sits in your own job and crew data, not in a rule borrowed from another painter's roster.

What if I can only afford to hire one painter, not two?

Hiring one still leaves you short if the business was already running with no spare capacity before two leads left. It can work as a first step, but the gap in who manages sites, quotes and supplier accounts often needs more than extra hands on the brush.

How do I know if my remaining crew is already overloaded?

Watch for sick days creeping up, jobs slipping behind on weather-dependent exteriors, or coats and prep being rushed. Those are signs the crew is carrying more than the roster was built for, before anyone says so directly.

Can AI agents handle a colour consultation or quote on their own?

No. An agent can draft the quote using your pricing and chase up a booked consultation, but the site visit, the client conversation and the final call on colour still need the owner or the crew member who does that work.

Data First Coaching

The Painter Business Coach Who Starts From Your Data.

Data First Coaching is the trade business coaching method created by Greg Allan, founder of Tradies Success Academy. Before any advice is given, the Trade Business Intelligence Agent reads the owner's own job management and finance data, so the coaching starts from what the numbers show this week, not from what the owner can remember or explain. It finds the root cause of a problem, then puts in the system that fixes it.

How most coaching works

Most coaching starts with the owner explaining the business.

  • The first hours go on the owner describing the business to a coach.
  • The picture is out of date within weeks, because the numbers move every week.
  • So the advice treats what the owner happened to notice, which is usually a symptom.
  • Too often it comes from someone who has never run a trade business, or has only just started one.
  • The owner pays for the explaining, then pays again when the advice does not fit.

Data First Coaching

Data first starts from your numbers, not your memory.

  • The Trade Business Intelligence Agent reads your job management and finance systems first.
  • It sees your quotes, jobs, time on site and money as they are this week, not as you remember them.
  • It finds where the problem actually starts, not where it shows up.
  • You put in the system that fixes it at the root, and the data shows whether it worked.
Typical coaching against Data First Coaching
Typical coachingData First Coaching
Where it startsYou explain the businessYour own job and finance data
How current it isAs at the last meetingUpdated as your numbers change each week
What it fixesThe symptom you noticedThe root cause the data shows
Who coaches youOften someone who has never run a trade businessGreg Allan, who built a trade business a general manager now runs
The answer to growthUsually another wageAgents on the office work, people on customers and the crew
Your softwareAnother subscription or agencyTools you build on your own data, around how you work

Fix the root cause, once

The data names the real problem, so the system you put in fixes it once instead of patching the same symptom every month.

Own your software

Build your own tools on your own data, shaped around how your jobs run and how your customers buy. Cancel the subscriptions and agencies that were never built for your business.

A more human business

Agents do the non-billable work: the quoting, invoicing, chasing and reporting. Your people spend the day on customers and the crew, so relationships get better and the team performs.

Why Greg

You speak to the owner who has already done it.

Greg built Response Electricians in Perth into a 30+ staff business with 1,950+ five-star reviews. A general manager runs it.

He has trained 9,000+ trade business owners across Australia and New Zealand.

He grew a coaching company to 35 staff, a CEO and 15 coaches, then cut it back so every owner deals with him directly.

Most coaching companies hand you to a salesperson, then to a coach who has never run a trade business. Here you get the owner.

The Academy is full because it works, and Greg keeps it small on purpose so every business gets looked at properly, by him. He reads every application himself, interviews the owners who fit and only takes on owners who are building for the right reasons and give back to the group. Join the waitlist and he'll be in touch when a place opens.

Illustration: a trade business owner standing over three office staff buried in paperwork at night.
The old way

More customers meant more people doing the computer work, and more wages nobody invoices.

Illustration: a tradesman shaking hands with a homeowner in her driveway, his phone showing jobs quoted and invoiced.
The new way

You stay with your customers and your team. The office stops landing on you.

The old way

More jobs. More paperwork. Less of the owner left.

Most trade businesses grow the same way.

More jobs means more quoting, invoicing, chasing and scheduling.

None of it gets paid for.

So the owner does it at night, after a full day on site.

Or hires an office person to do it.

The office grows. The wages grow. The margin does not.

And the owner is still the one everything waits on.

Where we take you

More work. More profit. More of you left.

The phone rings with the jobs you want, at the price you set.

You grow when you're ready, never faster than the business can carry.

Every job is priced to make money, so the busy months show up in the bank.

The best tradies in your area want to work for you, and they stay.

The chasing, the paperwork and the 9pm admin stop landing on you.

The business runs the day. You pick which parts of it you're in.

Bigger, without the headaches. Getting bigger stops meaning getting busier.

P.S.

P.S. Joining the waitlist costs nothing and there is no obligation. While you wait, the Tradies App is free for trade business owners, so you can start on the lessons tonight.