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Is a business coach worth it for a bricklaying business?

A business coach is worth it for a bricklaying business when the coaching starts from the crew's own numbers, not general advice. The real value isn't help laying brick faster, it's seeing what a day actually cost once labourers, load outs, scaffold waits and weather days are counted against the rate per thousand or the day rate, so the quote can be backed with real numbers instead of hope.

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By Greg Allan, tradesman and creator of Data First Coaching

Why does a bricklaying job hit the rate but still not pay?

A bricklaying job can hit the agreed rate per thousand bricks or match the day rate and still lose money once everything around the brickwork is counted. The wall goes up fast, the builder's happy with the face brick, but labourers waiting on mortar mix, scaffold lifts running late and a weather day halfway through the job all eat into a margin nobody measured.

Most bricklayers price the job on the brickwork itself, the thousand bricks laid or the day on site, because that's the part everyone can see. What gets missed is the time around it: the crew standing idle waiting for a scaffold company to finish a lift, a labourer sent back to the yard for more cement or blocks, or a run of weather days that pushes a retaining wall or a footing job out by a week with no extra charge to cover it.

None of that shows up as bad brickwork. The pointing's clean, the damp course is right, the cavity's done properly. But the job still didn't pay, because the business around the brickwork was never measured, only the brickwork itself.

What is a bricklayer not tracking that a coach would spot straight away?

Most bricklaying businesses track the quote, the invoice and the brickwork laid, but not the hours lost before a single brick goes on. Time spent sending a labourer off site for sand or cement, waiting on a scaffold lift, or standing round after a weather day rarely gets written down anywhere, so it never gets priced into the next quote and quietly chips away at margin on every job.

A coach who has actually run a trade business will ask a different question first: not how many bricks the crew laid, but how much of the crew's day was billable. That's the gap between a bricklayer who feels flat out every week and a bricklaying business that's actually profitable. The work can be excellent and the week can still cost money, because the hours that pay the bills are fewer than they look from site.

It also shows up in how a day rate or a rate per thousand gets set in the first place. If a bricklayer prices off what the last builder paid, or off site reputation alone, the rate never accounts for the load outs, the material runs and the weather days that come with every job.

What does a good business coach for a bricklaying business actually do?

A good coach doesn't teach you to lay brick faster or point cleaner, that's not their job. They start with your own crew's numbers: how much of the day was genuinely billable, where labourers and load outs are quietly costing hours, and whether your rate per thousand or day rate actually backs what the crew is worth once all of that's counted.

This is where the coaching has to be data first, starting from what your own jobs and your own crew's time actually show, rather than from a generic checklist built for every trade. A bricklaying business has its own shape: face brick for a builder is priced differently to a retaining wall or feature blockwork, and progress payments on a builder's job run on a different rhythm to a cash job off site.

Some of the non-billable work around a job, chasing a builder for a progress payment, booking a scaffold company, logging materials for a load out, can be handed to AI agents, which are software that does a job the way you'd do it yourself, with your own prices, wording and rules. AI agents can chase that progress update or log that load out the same way you would, freeing the crew's time for laying brick and your time for quoting the next job properly, instead of cleaning down a site all day and chasing paperwork after hours.

How do you know if a coach understands brickwork rates, not just balance sheets?

You'll know within one conversation whether a coach understands a rate per thousand against a day rate, or whether they're reading off a script built for a different kind of business. Ask how a run of weather days affects a job's profit, or how a builder's progress payments change your cash flow, and listen for whether the answer is specific to brickwork or generic enough to fit any trade.

Greg Allan, who built his own trade business before coaching others, has talked about a tradesman unsure of his rate needing to work out what he's actually worth and back it, rather than take whatever a builder offers. For a bricklayer, that confidence only holds up if it's backed by real numbers on what a day on the tools actually costs and returns, not just a reputation on site.

The warning signs are the same for any trade: a coach who sells hard before asking a single question about your business, who has never run a crew or chased a builder for payment themselves, or who hands out the same advice to a painter, a plumber and a bricklayer. If the advice would read the same for any of them, it was never built from your numbers.

What should you ask before you pay for a business coach?

Before you sign up, ask a coach what they'd look at first in your bricklaying business, and listen for whether the answer is your own numbers or a worksheet. A coach worth paying wants to see your actual jobs, your actual crew hours and your actual rate structure before they say anything about what's wrong, because every bricklaying business carries its own mix of builder work, retaining walls and feature brickwork.

  • Have they run a trade business themselves, or only coached one from the outside
  • Do they ask for your own job and crew data before giving advice, or start with a generic framework
  • Do they talk about billable time across the whole day, not just how fast a wall went up
  • Do they offer systems that fit how your jobs and your crew actually run, or the same answer for every trade
  • Do they treat every problem as hire someone, or help find where the issue actually starts

How does Data First Coaching approach this?

Data First Coaching starts with a bricklaying business's own numbers through the Trade Business Intelligence: what the crew's day actually looked like, how much of it was billable, and where load outs, scaffold waits and weather days are eating into the rate per thousand or the day rate. Greg Allan has said “the most important metric in understanding operational efficiency is billable hours for the day”, and that's where the coaching begins, not with advice about laying brick.

From there the work looks at whether the rate itself is backing what the crew is actually worth. The how of building that out happens inside the Academy, with members, because the Trade Business Intelligence is powered by every member who's open minded, innovative and willing to share what they find.

Also asked

More questions owners ask.

Can a one-person bricklaying outfit get value from a business coach, or is it only for bigger crews?

Yes, the same numbers matter whether it's one brickie on the tools or a crew of six. A sole operator often carries every job's load outs, material runs and quoting themselves, so seeing what's actually billable in a week matters just as much, often more, because there's no one else to absorb the lost time.

Does a coach need to understand builder progress payments to be useful to a bricklayer?

It helps enormously. Brickwork for a builder is usually paid in progress against a schedule, which runs very differently to a cash retaining wall job for a homeowner. A coach who doesn't understand that rhythm will give cash flow advice that doesn't fit how a bricklaying business actually gets paid.

What's the difference between a coach and an experienced brickie who's been there before?

Experience on the tools is valuable, but it's not the same as a system for reading a business's own numbers. A good coach brings both: time actually running a crew and a way of working from your job and finance data, not just stories from site.

How much time does coaching take out of an already full week on site?

A data first approach is built to use less of the owner's time, not more, because the coaching starts from the business's own numbers rather than the owner explaining everything from scratch every time. Time goes into fixing what the numbers show, not describing the business again.

Data First Coaching

Coaching That Starts From Your Data.

Data First Coaching is the trade business coaching method created by Greg Allan, founder of Tradies Success Academy. Before any advice is given, the Trade Business Intelligence Agent reads the owner's own job management and finance data, so the coaching starts from what the numbers show this week, not from what the owner can remember or explain. It finds the root cause of a problem, then puts in the system that fixes it.

How most coaching works

Most coaching starts with the owner explaining the business.

  • The first hours go on the owner describing the business to a coach.
  • The picture is out of date within weeks, because the numbers move every week.
  • So the advice treats what the owner happened to notice, which is usually a symptom.
  • Too often it comes from someone who has never run a trade business, or has only just started one.
  • The owner pays for the explaining, then pays again when the advice does not fit.

Data First Coaching

Data first starts from your numbers, not your memory.

  • The Trade Business Intelligence Agent reads your job management and finance systems first.
  • It sees your quotes, jobs, time on site and money as they are this week, not as you remember them.
  • It finds where the problem actually starts, not where it shows up.
  • You put in the system that fixes it at the root, and the data shows whether it worked.
Typical coaching against Data First Coaching
Typical coachingData First Coaching
Where it startsYou explain the businessYour own job and finance data
How current it isAs at the last meetingUpdated as your numbers change each week
What it fixesThe symptom you noticedThe root cause the data shows
Who coaches youOften someone who has never run a trade businessGreg Allan, who built a trade business a general manager now runs
The answer to growthUsually another wageAgents on the office work, people on customers and the crew
Your softwareAnother subscription or agencyTools you build on your own data, around how you work

Fix the root cause, once

The data names the real problem, so the system you put in fixes it once instead of patching the same symptom every month.

Own your software

Build your own tools on your own data, shaped around how your jobs run and how your customers buy. Cancel the subscriptions and agencies that were never built for your business.

A more human business

Agents do the non-billable work: the quoting, invoicing, chasing and reporting. Your people spend the day on customers and the crew, so relationships get better and the team performs.

Why Greg

You speak to the owner who has already done it.

Greg built Response Electricians in Perth into a 30+ staff business with 1,950+ five-star reviews. A general manager runs it.

He has trained 9,000+ trade business owners across Australia and New Zealand.

He grew a coaching company to 35 staff, a CEO and 15 coaches, then cut it back so every owner deals with him directly.

Most coaching companies hand you to a salesperson, then to a coach who has never run a trade business. Here you get the owner.

The Academy is in demand because it works, and Greg keeps places limited on purpose so every business gets looked at properly, by him. He reads every application himself, interviews the owners who fit and only takes on owners who are building for the right reasons and give back to the group. Apply now and he'll be in touch when a place opens.

Illustration: a trade business owner standing over three office staff buried in paperwork at night.
The old way

More customers meant more people doing the computer work, and more wages nobody invoices.

Illustration: a tradesman shaking hands with a homeowner in her driveway, his phone showing jobs quoted and invoiced.
The new way

You stay with your customers and your team. The office stops landing on you.

The old way

More jobs. More paperwork. Less of the owner left.

Most trade businesses grow the same way.

More jobs means more quoting, invoicing, chasing and scheduling.

None of it gets paid for.

So the owner does it at night, after a full day on site.

Or hires an office person to do it.

The office grows. The wages grow. The margin does not.

And the owner is still the one everything waits on.

Where we take you

More work. More profit. More of you left.

The phone rings with the jobs you want, at the price you set.

You grow when you're ready, never faster than the business can carry.

Every job is priced to make money, so the busy months show up in the bank.

The best tradies in your area want to work for you, and they stay.

The chasing, the paperwork and the 9pm admin stop landing on you.

The business runs the day. You pick which parts of it you're in.

Bigger, without the headaches. Getting bigger stops meaning getting busier.

P.S.

P.S. Applying costs nothing and there is no obligation. While you wait, the Tradies App is free for trade business owners, so you can start on the lessons tonight.