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How should a security systems business price installs and monitoring?

A security systems business should price each part of a job, camera supply, cabling, access control hardware, intercom and the monitoring connection, on its own line with its own labour, material and margin, rather than folding everything into one quoted number. A blended price can look fine overall while one line is actually losing money and being carried by another, and recurring monitoring revenue needs its own margin once support and remote access time are counted.

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By Greg Allan, tradesman and creator of Data First Coaching

Why does one quote number for CCTV, cabling, access control and monitoring hide the real margin?

A single blended price covering camera supply, cabling, access control hardware, intercom and the first year of monitoring can look profitable overall while one line is actually losing money and being carried by another. The security technician who quotes like a builder, one number for the whole job, has no way of seeing which part of the work is paying its own way and which part is quietly subsidising a weaker line.

Most security technicians build their quote the way they were taught, add up camera count, cabling metres, an access control panel, an intercom unit and a monitoring connection fee, then round it to a number that feels right against the competition. The job can win, get installed, and still be thin, because the cabling run or the materials line has been propped up by a stronger margin on labour or on the monitoring setup. Without the quote broken into lines, the gross profit margin the owner should be protecting every month is hidden inside one figure, and nobody in the business can see which part of the job is actually doing the work.

Why does pricing an install off how fast the owner runs cable undercharge the job?

Pricing an install off how fast the owner personally runs cable or wires up an access control panel undercharges the business once an average technician, or a new hire, does the same job. Labour time and material allowance need to be set for a realistic install, not the owner's best day on site.

An experienced security technician who has run thousands of metres of cabling and fitted dozens of access control panels can genuinely move faster than the price allows for. The quote template gets built around that speed, and for years it works, because the owner is the one doing the job. The moment a subbie, an apprentice or a newer technician picks up the same install, the labour hours blow past what was quoted, the margin disappears into the gap, and the owner often cannot see it happened because the whole job was priced as one number, not as camera supply, cabling, access control and monitoring set up as separate lines each carrying their own real cost.

What should a security technician price separately on every job?

Each line, camera supply, cabling run, access control panel, intercom unit and the monitoring connection, needs its own price built from real labour and material cost plus margin, and reviewed as supplier and licensing costs move, instead of one rate covering the whole job.

You know your own trade well enough to list the lines on a typical commercial or strata job without thinking twice. The question worth asking is whether each of those lines is priced to stand on its own, or whether it only looks fine because it sits inside a bigger number. Monitoring and service contracts are the clearest example, because that recurring revenue is often quoted as a flat add on rather than priced for what it actually costs once remote access checks, support calls and maintenance visits are counted against it over the life of the contract.

How do AI agents help a security technician see which line is actually profitable?

An AI agent is software that does a job the way you would, with your prices, wording and rules. For pricing, an agent can gather supplier invoices and quote history so you see, line by line, where the real cost sits and where a price has crept up since you last reviewed your materials list, without you having to do that admin yourself.

Picture a security technician whose camera and cabling supplier sends every invoice through as an emailed PDF. There is no easy way to see what he is actually paying for materials from one month to the next, or to notice when a camera model or a cabling reel quietly goes up in price. An AI agent built around his own supplier accounts can gather every invoice, build up his materials pricing automatically, and produce a discrepancy report, now set to run every month on its own, so the price he is quoting off is the price he is actually paying, not the one he remembers from the last big job. That is a data first way of pricing, starting from what the business is actually spending, not from memory of what a job used to cost.

How does itemising a quote help win commercial and strata work?

Itemising a quote so a commercial or strata client can see exactly what they are paying for, camera count, cabling metres, access control points and the monitoring connection, builds trust and makes it harder for a less transparent competitor to win the job on a vague lump sum.

Strata committees and commercial building managers are usually comparing more than one quote, often from more than one security technician, and a single number with no breakdown gives them nothing to compare except the bottom line. An itemised quote lets the client see the value in each part of the security system, and it gives the technician a clean way to price an upgrade later, extra cameras, more access control points, a new intercom, without having to reprice the whole job from scratch. It also protects the recurring revenue sitting in the service contract, because the client can see monitoring was never a throw in, it was always its own line with its own value.

How does Data First Coaching approach this?

Data First Coaching starts by looking at the owner's own quotes and job costings through the Trade Business Intelligence, line by line, rather than at a feeling about whether pricing is fair. For a security technician that means seeing which lines, cabling, camera supply, access control, monitoring, are actually carrying their own weight, and where the install time being quoted still reflects the owner's own hands on the tools rather than a realistic average. Greg Allan, who built and ran his own trade business, teaches pricing from that starting point, to “allow for a really average person to get it done”. The how of building it into your own pricing is worked through inside the Academy, with other members, because the Trade Business Intelligence is powered by every member who is open minded and willing to share what they find.

Also asked

More questions owners ask.

Should monitoring be priced as its own monthly fee or folded into the install price?

Monitoring and service contracts are recurring revenue and deserve their own price, built from the real cost of remote access checks, support and maintenance over the contract, rather than being folded into the install so nobody can tell if the monitoring line itself is profitable.

How often should a security technician review pricing on cabling and camera supply?

Supplier prices for cameras, cabling and access control hardware move, and licensing costs can shift too, so pricing built once and left alone usually drifts away from real cost. Reviewing each line regularly, rather than only when a job feels tight, keeps the quote honest.

Does breaking a quote into lines slow down selling to commercial or strata clients?

Usually the opposite. Commercial building managers and strata committees are comparing quotes, and an itemised breakdown gives them something to assess, which tends to build trust faster than a single number with no explanation behind it.

What happens to the quote if a subbie or new technician does the install instead of the owner?

If the price was built around how fast the owner personally works, the labour hours can blow out once someone else does the job, eating the margin on that line without it showing up, because the whole job is still priced as one blended number.

Data First Coaching

Coaching That Starts From Your Data.

Data First Coaching is the trade business coaching method created by Greg Allan, founder of Tradies Success Academy. Before any advice is given, the Trade Business Intelligence Agent reads the owner's own job management and finance data, so the coaching starts from what the numbers show this week, not from what the owner can remember or explain. It finds the root cause of a problem, then puts in the system that fixes it.

How most coaching works

Most coaching starts with the owner explaining the business.

  • The first hours go on the owner describing the business to a coach.
  • The picture is out of date within weeks, because the numbers move every week.
  • So the advice treats what the owner happened to notice, which is usually a symptom.
  • Too often it comes from someone who has never run a trade business, or has only just started one.
  • The owner pays for the explaining, then pays again when the advice does not fit.

Data First Coaching

Data first starts from your numbers, not your memory.

  • The Trade Business Intelligence Agent reads your job management and finance systems first.
  • It sees your quotes, jobs, time on site and money as they are this week, not as you remember them.
  • It finds where the problem actually starts, not where it shows up.
  • You put in the system that fixes it at the root, and the data shows whether it worked.
Typical coaching against Data First Coaching
Typical coachingData First Coaching
Where it startsYou explain the businessYour own job and finance data
How current it isAs at the last meetingUpdated as your numbers change each week
What it fixesThe symptom you noticedThe root cause the data shows
Who coaches youOften someone who has never run a trade businessGreg Allan, who built a trade business a general manager now runs
The answer to growthUsually another wageAgents on the office work, people on customers and the crew
Your softwareAnother subscription or agencyTools you build on your own data, around how you work

Fix the root cause, once

The data names the real problem, so the system you put in fixes it once instead of patching the same symptom every month.

Own your software

Build your own tools on your own data, shaped around how your jobs run and how your customers buy. Cancel the subscriptions and agencies that were never built for your business.

A more human business

Agents do the non-billable work: the quoting, invoicing, chasing and reporting. Your people spend the day on customers and the crew, so relationships get better and the team performs.

Why Greg

You speak to the owner who has already done it.

Greg built Response Electricians in Perth into a 30+ staff business with 1,950+ five-star reviews. A general manager runs it.

He has trained 9,000+ trade business owners across Australia and New Zealand.

He grew a coaching company to 35 staff, a CEO and 15 coaches, then cut it back so every owner deals with him directly.

Most coaching companies hand you to a salesperson, then to a coach who has never run a trade business. Here you get the owner.

The Academy is full because it works, and Greg keeps it small on purpose so every business gets looked at properly, by him. He reads every application himself, interviews the owners who fit and only takes on owners who are building for the right reasons and give back to the group. Join the waitlist and he'll be in touch when a place opens.

Illustration: a trade business owner standing over three office staff buried in paperwork at night.
The old way

More customers meant more people doing the computer work, and more wages nobody invoices.

Illustration: a tradesman shaking hands with a homeowner in her driveway, his phone showing jobs quoted and invoiced.
The new way

You stay with your customers and your team. The office stops landing on you.

The old way

More jobs. More paperwork. Less of the owner left.

Most trade businesses grow the same way.

More jobs means more quoting, invoicing, chasing and scheduling.

None of it gets paid for.

So the owner does it at night, after a full day on site.

Or hires an office person to do it.

The office grows. The wages grow. The margin does not.

And the owner is still the one everything waits on.

Where we take you

More work. More profit. More of you left.

The phone rings with the jobs you want, at the price you set.

You grow when you're ready, never faster than the business can carry.

Every job is priced to make money, so the busy months show up in the bank.

The best tradies in your area want to work for you, and they stay.

The chasing, the paperwork and the 9pm admin stop landing on you.

The business runs the day. You pick which parts of it you're in.

Bigger, without the headaches. Getting bigger stops meaning getting busier.

P.S.

P.S. Joining the waitlist costs nothing and there is no obligation. While you wait, the Tradies App is free for trade business owners, so you can start on the lessons tonight.