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Dry hire or wet hire, which makes more money for an earthmoving business?

Neither dry hire nor wet hire is automatically more profitable for an earthmoving contractor; the real answer sits in the gross profit margin each job leaves once fuel, operator wages, servicing and machine hours are counted against what was quoted. An earthmoving contractor who checks that margin job by job, rather than going on memory, usually finds one type of hire quietly carrying the other.

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By Greg Allan, tradesman and creator of Data First Coaching

Why does dry hire feel simpler but wet hire feel like where the real money is?

Dry hire feels simpler because there is no wage, no fuel bill, and no responsibility for what the machine does once it leaves the yard. Wet hire feels like the real money because the day rate is higher and the contractor's own operator is working every hour on site. Both are feelings, not numbers, and feelings are usually built from the last good week rather than this month's figures.

Most earthmoving contractors start out doing dry hire almost without deciding to: an excavator or bobcat goes out on site, the civil contractor or builder runs their own operator, and the invoice is machine hours times a rate. Wet hire grows from there, often because a customer asks for it, not because anyone worked out which one actually pays.

Neither feels wrong at the time. The problem is that feel is not the same as margin, and most owners are comparing the two from memory of a good week rather than from what each type of hire actually leaves after costs.

What does the gross profit margin on a dry hire job actually show against a wet hire job?

The number that settles the argument is the gross profit margin each job type leaves once fuel, the operator's time, servicing and the float are counted against what was charged, not the rate quoted on the day. A dry hire excavator earning a steady rate with no running costs can out earn a wet hire job that looked busy but ate its margin in diesel and breakdowns.

This is where the symptom and the cause usually come apart. An earthmoving contractor feeling like wet hire is where the real money is might be looking at turnover, not profit. A site cut that ran long because of a wet day, or a drainage job where an attachment had to be swapped twice, can turn a good day rate into a thin one by the time the machine is cleaned, fuelled and parked. The gross profit margin on that job, tracked separately for dry hire and wet hire, is what tells the truth that memory cannot.

How do you actually find out which one is making you money?

You find out by looking at gross profit margin job by job and hire type by hire type, not by comparing turnover at the end of the month. That means setting the real cost of every wet hire day, fuel, wages, servicing, breakdown time, against what was invoiced, and doing the same for every dry hire job against its machine hours.

Once you see it that way, the picture often moves. A tipper on dry hire might be quietly carrying the business while a wet hire excavator job, the one that feels like the flagship work, is the one dragging the average down. You cannot fix what you cannot see, and guessing from the last good week is not the same as checking this week's numbers.

This is what data first means for an earthmoving contractor: the decision about where to put the next excavator, the next operator, or the next tipping fee negotiation comes from what your own job data says this month, not from a feeling about which type of work felt busier.

What changes when AI agents take over tracking this for you?

An AI agent is software that does a job the way you would do it yourself, following your prices, your wording and your rules, except it does it every time without being asked. For an earthmoving contractor, that means an agent can sit across every dry hire and wet hire job as it closes out, matching fuel, servicing and operator time against the invoice, and flagging the jobs where the margin has slipped.

That work rarely gets done by hand because it is not billable and there is always a site cut, a trenching job or a rock breaking job pulling attention somewhere else. AI agents taking it on does not replace you making the call on whether to chase more wet hire work or grow the dry hire fleet. It means the call gets made from the actual numbers this month, not from the last job that went well or badly.

Should you be chasing more wet hire work or building up the dry hire fleet?

There is no single right answer for every earthmoving business, and the data usually shows a mix rather than a clean winner. Some civil and builder customers want wet hire because they do not want to manage an operator; some want dry hire because they already run their own crew and just need the plant.

The right mix for your business is the one your own gross profit margin points to, job type by job type, customer by customer. An earthmoving contractor with a reliable operator and a low breakdown history might find wet hire consistently pays better once fuel and wages are covered. Another, carrying older plant with heavier servicing costs, might find dry hire is where the real margin sits. Neither is wrong; the numbers for that business are what decide it.

How does Data First Coaching approach this?

Data First Coaching, built by Greg Allan, starts by looking at what your own dry hire and wet hire jobs have actually left behind in gross profit margin, not at which one feels busier or which one the owner prefers running. The Trade Business Intelligence reads that job and finance data alongside ten years of coaching earthmoving and other trade businesses to find where the margin is really being lost, whether that is in fuel, servicing, float time or pricing.

From there the how, which agents to build, which jobs to track differently, which hire type to grow, is worked through inside the Academy with members. The Academy is for owners who are open minded, innovative and willing to share what they learn, because the Trade Business Intelligence gets smarter for every member as every member feeds it.

Also asked

More questions owners ask.

Does dry hire or wet hire suit a new earthmoving business better?

Neither is automatically better for a new earthmoving business; it depends on the customers being quoted, the plant already owned and how confident the owner is pricing an operator's time into the day rate. The gross profit margin on early jobs, tracked honestly, usually shows which one suits the business faster than guessing.

Can an earthmoving contractor run both dry hire and wet hire at once?

Yes, and most earthmoving contractors end up running both, often on the same machine depending on what the customer wants that week. The point is not choosing one forever, it is knowing which jobs, customers or seasons each type is actually paying for once fuel, wages and servicing are counted.

What happens to margin on wet hire during a run of wet days?

A run of wet days usually hits wet hire harder because the operator and machine can be stood down with less to invoice while fuel, servicing and wages keep accruing. Dry hire jobs sitting idle cost less because there is no wage attached, which is part of why the two need separate tracking.

Should tipping fees be tracked separately from the hire rate?

Tipping fees are often buried inside the hire rate, which hides whether they are being recovered properly on a bulk earthworks or site cut job. Tracking them separately against what was actually paid at the tip gives a clearer read on which jobs are carrying a cost the quote never covered.

Data First Coaching

Coaching That Starts From Your Data.

Data First Coaching is the trade business coaching method created by Greg Allan, founder of Tradies Success Academy. Before any advice is given, the Trade Business Intelligence Agent reads the owner's own job management and finance data, so the coaching starts from what the numbers show this week, not from what the owner can remember or explain. It finds the root cause of a problem, then puts in the system that fixes it.

How most coaching works

Most coaching starts with the owner explaining the business.

  • The first hours go on the owner describing the business to a coach.
  • The picture is out of date within weeks, because the numbers move every week.
  • So the advice treats what the owner happened to notice, which is usually a symptom.
  • Too often it comes from someone who has never run a trade business, or has only just started one.
  • The owner pays for the explaining, then pays again when the advice does not fit.

Data First Coaching

Data first starts from your numbers, not your memory.

  • The Trade Business Intelligence Agent reads your job management and finance systems first.
  • It sees your quotes, jobs, time on site and money as they are this week, not as you remember them.
  • It finds where the problem actually starts, not where it shows up.
  • You put in the system that fixes it at the root, and the data shows whether it worked.
Typical coaching against Data First Coaching
Typical coachingData First Coaching
Where it startsYou explain the businessYour own job and finance data
How current it isAs at the last meetingUpdated as your numbers change each week
What it fixesThe symptom you noticedThe root cause the data shows
Who coaches youOften someone who has never run a trade businessGreg Allan, who built a trade business a general manager now runs
The answer to growthUsually another wageAgents on the office work, people on customers and the crew
Your softwareAnother subscription or agencyTools you build on your own data, around how you work

Fix the root cause, once

The data names the real problem, so the system you put in fixes it once instead of patching the same symptom every month.

Own your software

Build your own tools on your own data, shaped around how your jobs run and how your customers buy. Cancel the subscriptions and agencies that were never built for your business.

A more human business

Agents do the non-billable work: the quoting, invoicing, chasing and reporting. Your people spend the day on customers and the crew, so relationships get better and the team performs.

Why Greg

You speak to the owner who has already done it.

Greg built Response Electricians in Perth into a 30+ staff business with 1,950+ five-star reviews. A general manager runs it.

He has trained 9,000+ trade business owners across Australia and New Zealand.

He grew a coaching company to 35 staff, a CEO and 15 coaches, then cut it back so every owner deals with him directly.

Most coaching companies hand you to a salesperson, then to a coach who has never run a trade business. Here you get the owner.

The Academy is in demand because it works, and Greg keeps places limited on purpose so every business gets looked at properly, by him. He reads every application himself, interviews the owners who fit and only takes on owners who are building for the right reasons and give back to the group. Apply now and he'll be in touch when a place opens.

Illustration: a trade business owner standing over three office staff buried in paperwork at night.
The old way

More customers meant more people doing the computer work, and more wages nobody invoices.

Illustration: a tradesman shaking hands with a homeowner in her driveway, his phone showing jobs quoted and invoiced.
The new way

You stay with your customers and your team. The office stops landing on you.

The old way

More jobs. More paperwork. Less of the owner left.

Most trade businesses grow the same way.

More jobs means more quoting, invoicing, chasing and scheduling.

None of it gets paid for.

So the owner does it at night, after a full day on site.

Or hires an office person to do it.

The office grows. The wages grow. The margin does not.

And the owner is still the one everything waits on.

Where we take you

More work. More profit. More of you left.

The phone rings with the jobs you want, at the price you set.

You grow when you're ready, never faster than the business can carry.

Every job is priced to make money, so the busy months show up in the bank.

The best tradies in your area want to work for you, and they stay.

The chasing, the paperwork and the 9pm admin stop landing on you.

The business runs the day. You pick which parts of it you're in.

Bigger, without the headaches. Getting bigger stops meaning getting busier.

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